March 30, 2017

Emma Watson interviews Eve Ensler - Part 2



Here's part 1 of her interview for ELLE. Part 3 will be posted tomorrow.


PART 2. "There's a profound emergency in America."

Emma Watson: Are things changing with regards to the patriarchy?

Eve Ensler: I think what is sad is that the men in power still don't understand that the liberation of women is their liberation as well, because they're still hungering for domination. I think that desire for domination, that predatory mind-set, is destroying our world in every respect. Whether it's immigrants who are being denied entry after the U.S. bombed their countries, whether it's the greed of extraction of oil which devastates the earth, whether it's women's bodies endlessly raped and abused and denied reproductive rights - there's such a predatory mind-set at present. I think the younger generation were born with so many of the Rights that my generation didn't have, so they naturally took them for granted. Now when those rights are under siege, suddenly people are waking up and realizing, " We have to resist. We have to fight."

I think we're in a profound emergency in America. I think we had to hit rock bottom, so that we could address all the things that haven't ever been dealt with. We have to finally deal with the fact that this is a country built on genocide of the Indigenous people, this is a country built on slavery. This is a country rooted in misogyny. This is a country that does not respect, honor cherish and pay working people, (especially women) what they deserve. This is a country that has been committing imperialist wars for years on people around the world, killing them, raping them, destroying them economically and literally. It's a comeuppance - we're in a time of our karma coming to roost.

This moment is a huge opportunity to deal with our history and to say - "We are going to reckon with our past, make restitutions, be guided and transformed by our mistakes, reset our course. It's going to require protest, protection, planning and prophecy. Smack in the middle of the word emergency is the word emerge.

Emma Watson: So, lots of members of my book club sent in questions for you.... Anne would like to know: "What is it about the female reproductive organs that causes such debate?". I know it's a broad question, but in a nutshell, what do you think it is about the female reproductive organs that are causing all of this commotion?

Eve Ensler: I think women have never had the rights to their own bodies or desires. They have been objectified and abused by the state, the Church, family structures. We are slowly coming into freedom and choice. Choice over whether we have babies or don't, choice over sexuality and sex, choice over what jobs we will and wont do, choice over how we are respected and treated on those jobs. Choice to have our desire.

Emma Watson: Was there a hardest monologue for you to put together, and why was that one more difficult than the others?

Eve Ensler: I think that the Bosnia piece was the hardest piece to write. I had just come from the Bosnian War and I had been in Bosnia and Croatia for a period of time where I had been in refugee camps interviewing women who had been horribly raped in the war. That was my first time I had been in a war zone and the first time with women who were on the front lines, having been in rape camps. It was devastating. It was utterly devastating.

I think every time I performed that piece I would break down because I would remember those women, their faces and their stories. I went back to Bosnia years later to a town where one of the horrible massacres had occurred and the women in that town were performing 'My Vagina Was My Village' in a production there and it was a profoundly cathartic moment. Everyone weeping, actually wailing.

That piece still disturbs me and sadly it's still going on. How many women live in countries where rape is used as a systematic tactic of war? How many women have lost their minds and had their vaginas and bodies eviscerated during conflicts? It still continues and escalates in this neo-liberal global capitalist system where women's bodies become the landscape on which global wars for resources are fought.

Emma Watson: Neo-liberal capitalist is very true. Here's a question I like - and I'm interested in what you think about it - what do you think about the way boys are raised in our culture specifically?

Eve Ensler: I think being raised a boy in a patriarchy is almost more torturous than being raised a girl, because at least we are allowed to keep our hearts. We are allowed to feel, to cry, and we are allowed to connect. With boys, from the time you open your eyes, you are taught not to cry, feel, show weakness and not to ever let anyone know you have doubts, and so your heart is cut off. You are severed from it from such a young age. What has it done to our boys? It has turned them into soldiers and men capable of battery, rape. When boys are not allowed to feel their vulnerability or their tenderness, they become hard and uncompassionate. In 'Insecure At Last,' I said "Bullets are hardened tears.".

21 comments:

Ross Taggart said...

Really hits home, can't recommend reading the book or seeing the play highly enough don't be put off by the title, some are, it is very informative and wide ranging treatise on gender.

Anonymous said...

^ you are Eden lol

Eden said...

... I'm what now? XD

Anonymous said...

your are Ross which makes sense considering his twitter has pictures first which you post later....

Anonymous said...

You know what other region was built on slavery? The Middle East. Egypt was built with Jewish slave labor. Most of what now constitutes Iran was stolen from Eastern Europeans whom they enslaved for over 500 years. England was built on slave labor bought from other African tribes, not to mention having enslaved the Irish for years. Every country in this world was built on slave labor. America is an offshoot of the UK. We broke free from them and eventually got rid of their habits. Some of us, anyway. The Democrats have always been the children of the British. They're the oldest party in America. They inherited their British parents slaves and imperialist attitudes. Once a slaver always a slaver. Only now they do it by enslaving people's minds instead of their bodies. I come from two slave races. I come from Eastern Europe and Ireland.

Eden said...

"your are Ross which makes sense considering his twitter has pictures first which you post later..."

XD I'm not even going to try denying it.

Anonymous said...

So sad to see a girl I idolized falling to the dark side and being a slaver as well. But after all, it's par for the course.

Anonymous said...

It was the Democrats who were responsible for the biggest slaughter of natives. Take it up with them.

Anonymous said...

"XD I'm not even going to try denying it."

ergh the internet is full of wierdos

sigh another catfish :/

Anonymous said...

It's like this. There will always be aggressors. There are in every animal kingdom. And human beings are nothing but a higher form of animal. A country without sovereignty is not a country. A country that won't uphold it's laws and protect it's people is not a country. It's a no man's land. Up for grabs to the first comer who wants it. Life only belongs to those who claim it. If you won't then you're already dead. These suicidal, hypocritical, intolerant SJWs want us to give up our lives for surviving in the way every country in the world had to survive in the beginning. They're trying to force us to jump off a cliff with them. You don't own me. You don't own my thoughts. I want my hope. I want my future. You jump if that's what you want.

Anonymous said...

One of feminism's big heroes is a Neo Nazi eugenicist who set up what eventually became Planned Parenthood for the purpose of culling what she termed as defectives and degenerates. That said, seeing as it would be vastly liberal majority going in for it, I have to say it's not a bad idea. I would let you have your Planned Parenthood. And en masse, unfettered, unvetted immigration, too. I would keep confined to solid blue states.

Anonymous said...

Eden isn't Ross. If Eden were Ross, she'd delete every single remotely anti-Emma comment on here.lol

Ross Taggart said...

That is true I would :)

Anonymous said...

Eden isn't female lol

Anonymous said...

Is no other opinion allowed but fawning?

Ross Taggart said...

On my board yes but this is not my site or is it. We are entering The Circle territory now :)

Anonymous said...

"Is no other opinion allowed but fawning?"

I've blocked him. Thank god.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Iran is made up of several regions conquered by the Assyrians well before Medieval times. You should get your facts straight anon. But even so, the region was built most likely on the slave labor of the conquered tribes.

Anonymous said...

Maps get redrawn. And usually it's a big war that redraws it. WW1 destroyed all the old empires (including the Ottoman Turks, only for Eastern Europe to be enslaved again by Communism which eventually collapsed only for them to be enslaved again by the EU and an old "friend", Islam). The brewing WW3 is sure to redraw the map again.

Anonymous said...

The fall of civilizations is a law of nature. It was over due.

Ross Taggart said...

Wow even I think it might be time to lighten up here. Eve and Emma in the past said not to forget to have fun. Nothing is inevitable but the laws of thermodynamics.

Even then there are Enchantress that can deal with those.