tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post8743851625706225162..comments2024-02-09T11:19:21.853+01:00Comments on Emma Watson: Emma Watson picks 'Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race' for Our Shared ShelfUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-18290124744775430872018-01-03T11:11:40.063+01:002018-01-03T11:11:40.063+01:00While I agree with some of your points, I don'...While I agree with some of your points, I don't think that HfS is primarily about visibility, for if you read up on the work and talks they do/are doing/ hv done mist of it is not publicised but it is quite far reaching. Emma is the global ambassador, so her very first HfS speech is nit the only ine to be taken into account, madam phumzile mlambo-ngucka's speech was also to be taken into account. The thing about Emma's speech, i felt, was that it addressed a few of the basic concerns of feminism that could be applicable to different scenarios- in a 12 minute speech-and also while addressing her own "sheer privilege" as she puts it. <br />So, i think as part of UNWomen and HfS, Emma has been taking part in a lot of work that isnt publicised, just as majority of HfS's/UNWomen's work isnt as publicised as Emma's speech became. <br />Intersectionality is something all of us develop over time. You cant start off being completely intersectional, for there will always be more layers to consider, depending on your background and where u come from. Sexuality, genders, race, class, caste, religion, socioeconomic factors, etc.... It goes on and on. So i think its a little unfair to say, " oh why werent u as intersectional, as u are now, from the beginning?" We develop over time and it takes a lot of effort. We can only move forward and include more and more people than we did before, hence being more intersectional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-74165760617328392842018-01-03T01:58:47.730+01:002018-01-03T01:58:47.730+01:00Meant to say *white women* at the end of the secon...Meant to say *white women* at the end of the second paragraph, not WoC.<br /><br />PDXPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13589707540328164436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-29909946852607961782018-01-03T01:55:41.846+01:002018-01-03T01:55:41.846+01:00@Anon yikes. This is why I rarely comment here. I ...@Anon yikes. This is why I rarely comment here. I don't think anything I said was so controversial as to elicit such a response.<br /><br />HfS and OSS have been pretty white and pretty mid-upper class since the beginning. Sorry, but it's true. Emma pretty much says as such here. I mean, look at her first HfS speech, which I think was a good speech, where a statement about 'African girls' was tacked on at the end, almost as an afterthought. It is absolutely necessary to actively address race in respect to feminism and women around the globe, but also close to home. It's not enough to include works on a reading list written by people from different backgrounds, it has to be actively addressed and brought to people's attention. You'd think this would be understood, given that's the exact reasoning behind the HfS campaign - bringing feminism and women's rights to the forefront, and extending the subject to people it doesn't directly address - men in that case, WoC in this case.<br /><br />I say it's not quite intersectional because I haven't seen all dimensions addressed yet. And, being that these campaigns are very much about visibility and spreading ideas, what you say about 'behind the scenes' is just apologetic. <br /><br />I don't hold feminists to impossibly high standards. I could give less than zero cups whether or not Emma partially shows her breasts in a photo shoot. My only standard is intersectionality.PDXPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13589707540328164436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-41496488710160962092018-01-03T00:41:13.642+01:002018-01-03T00:41:13.642+01:00Hi everyone.
I was not coming here for a while bec...Hi everyone.<br />I was not coming here for a while because let's say I chose not to follow Emma anymore. As a "fan" I was too desalinated, though I would have loved to be her friend and to casually talk with her about feminism around a cup of tea. <br /><br />Anyway. <br />I'm glad to be back and to read her message. I feel sad for her, but also "proud" in a way...<br />For the first time she acknowledges her weakness, her white feminism, and she says how harsh it was to handle the criticism. She must have had so sad moments, filled with doubts and crushed hopes. She had found her way only to find that the general public didn't think her good enough, that must be tough. <br />To me this message shows that she sees the light, that she's ready to face the criticism (to address it would be more precise, I'm sure she has been aware of it all the way through). Thaïshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02882457542374607112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-80459833510462579882018-01-02T20:18:34.884+01:002018-01-02T20:18:34.884+01:00I love how her choices are so varied. Love ya♥♥I love how her choices are so varied. Love ya♥♥Vrindhanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-8707624247293875962018-01-02T20:17:09.492+01:002018-01-02T20:17:09.492+01:00"Too bad it wasn't this from the start&qu..."Too bad it wasn't this from the start" <br />Do you actually remember the books she chose? Color Purple, Persepolis-Marjane Satrapi, Gloria Steinem's book that talked about her experience across the globe, bell hooks book About Love, Caitlin Moran, etc..<br /><br />"It still isn't quite intersectional"<br />@PDXP<br />As if any of us know about the behind the scenes/ unpublicised work she's been doing all this time, as she mentions working with Mama Cash- in passing, which implies she's definitely collaborating and doing social work that we dont know of. I remember her also talking about the lack of statistics regarding important factors surrounding FGM and MGM (female & male genital mutilation), and she spoke of looking to collect or contribute to gathering the required statistics needed for a better idea of the situation. I think it was in some random B&B interview where they asked her about her feminist work.<br /><br />I think a lot of feminists hold other feminists to very high standards without actually appreciating them enough for the work that they do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-59374297626953767092018-01-02T15:29:27.168+01:002018-01-02T15:29:27.168+01:00I never read from the shelf; I am more interested ...I never read from the shelf; I am more interested in possible films.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-79673368580875992582018-01-02T04:27:44.031+01:002018-01-02T04:27:44.031+01:00Thank you, Emma. You're the best. ❤❤❤Thank you, Emma. You're the best. ❤❤❤Levinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-89915885060774363462018-01-02T02:15:19.431+01:002018-01-02T02:15:19.431+01:00Well, good. Too bad it wasn't this from the st...Well, good. Too bad it wasn't this from the start, though, and still it isn't quite intersectional. But a good step.PDXPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13589707540328164436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-81050374576619201352017-12-31T22:23:19.209+01:002017-12-31T22:23:19.209+01:00She's such a strong and introspective feminist...She's such a strong and introspective feminist. I admire her greatly!Rolindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7264829302655468511.post-8333295602270629562017-12-31T22:20:49.857+01:002017-12-31T22:20:49.857+01:00All of her book choices are so interesting , thoug...All of her book choices are so interesting , thought-provoking, and educational. I think she's awesome! ♥Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com