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"We can't control what happens but we can use it" @GloriaSteinem @EmWatson
"It's been the most liberating and terrifying experience to speak for myself" @EmWatson speaking to @GloriaSteinem
@EmWatson asks @GloriaSteinem how marriage might negatively impact upon a woman? Can it ever be equal?
"If we don't eliminate violence within families then it can't be eliminated outside" says @GloriaSteinem to @EmWatson
"The greatest risk to security is the social devaluation of female life" says @EmWatson on learning how many have died just for being female
Why is there shame around crying?! ask @EmWatson and @GloriaSteinem
"It takes four generations to heal one act of violence" @GloriaSteinem quotes a Native American proverb @EmWatson
"I want to ask you about porn," @EmWatson says in her sweetest, loveliest voice to @GloriaSteinem. @howtoacademy #5x15
What keeps you going when times are hard? asks @EmWatson "friends" says @GloriaSteinem
@EmWatson talks about her sadness meeting women and young girls worried about their looks
"Should the word feminism be changed?" @EmWatson asks. "It's not the word that matters, it's the meaning" says @GloriaSteinem
Why is there shame around crying?! ask @EmWatson and @GloriaSteinem
"It takes four generations to heal one act of violence" @GloriaSteinem quotes a Native American proverb @EmWatson
"I want to ask you about porn," @EmWatson says in her sweetest, loveliest voice to @GloriaSteinem. @howtoacademy #5x15
What keeps you going when times are hard? asks @EmWatson "friends" says @GloriaSteinem
@EmWatson talks about her sadness meeting women and young girls worried about their looks
"Should the word feminism be changed?" @EmWatson asks. "It's not the word that matters, it's the meaning" says @GloriaSteinem
53 comments:
Will there be a video version of it ?
I love Emma and what she's doing for equality, but to me it seems like maybe Gloria is maybe getting into Emma's head too much.
It seems like ever since Gloria got involved in this Emma's views and actions started to go extreme.
Very interesting even if it's a bit too fwd on Gloria's part. Radical. Though that is how she has always been.
Any comment telling others to kill themselves will obviously be deleted.
I think Emma needs to take careful stock of the route she is following. If she is not careful she will alienate more than a few of her fans if she gets too radical.
Emma is learning feminism from the wrong people. Gloria has a very outdated view of feminism. And I see there was no mention of inter sectionality at all.
I think they need to get their fact straight about the number of female refugee, and the fact that the men come to safety and then send for their wives...
I work with refugees in Germany; a young man from Syria just had his family come. He is learning German at a nearby Catholic school and the sisters have an apartment for him and his wife with three children. They have refugee boys in their boarding school. Things are going well and the kids feel safe. In the neighboring town, their is a Catholic boarding school for girls, and many refugee girls from Syria, Iraq, Iran (Moslem children). They are very respectful and everyone works well with one another. In fact the problems are often betweent he different ethnic groups of the Middle East.
I still say that she should have gone the Humanist road which encompasses feminism as humanistic endeavor but doesn't carry the feminist corset in people's minds. People just know that their are women from all walks of life who are feminists and real wierdos and are not taken serious, but they cause a lot of damage.
pOMP, POMp. She needs to step into the boots of reality again. Her path is getting too surreal for me.
eden, you're the same french bitch you were long ago) normal people not afraid to post as themselves, and to show their faces. overgrow yourself, get laid already or smth, get a real life and get rid of virtual one. jeez, she hides herself like she've created some anti-government blog, and will probably be dealt with like with some spy, only for running some little pap/stalkerish blog. beware, Emma will know, they'll find you, maybe you should change your gender, face, name, move to another country)))
XD What on earth are you on? I'll leave this comment because it's really funny and I don't mind it, but could people stop being insulting, please? (referencing to the person above the nut one.
What did she talk about porn? can't find a video of that anywhere
Eden, I'll say it again -- you're under absolutely no obligation to post anonymous comments worthless, poop-flinging trolls.
Ok je suis contente d'apprendre que la personne qui tient ce blog est française :) Eden, je ne sais pas qui tu es mais je te suis sincèrement reconnaissante de tenir un site aussi bien informé. En relayant des articles sur l'engagement féministe d'Emma Watson, tu prouves que tu es autre chose qu'une "stalker", tu es aussi une blogueuse engagée. Ce que tu fais est important, même si certaines personnes essayent de te faire croire le contraire. Merci encore
How on this earth people find the time to come in a website just to be inconvenient...
Good blog, Eden. And I've always been glad she calls it what it is, feminism, and not "humanism' or 'egalitarianism'. People need to know there's a problem with how men and women are treated in society. The other terms are too generalized.
I used to really respect Emma when she started the entire Heforshe thing because she was making a stand for men as well as women. As time has gone on, she has become more out of touch and more extreme. She is starting to praise and associate with an extreme feminist like Gloria, which is a sign to me that it is over.
Also, as a man. I miss the classic sexy Emma from when she was like 18-23. She has become far less sexy since she started getting hardcore with this feminism stuff, and has started making very few appearances. When she does make an appearance, she is often dressed like an old woman instead of a hot, sexy one in her mid 20s. She can dress however she wants, but it is more proof that she has changed and has become totally different than the Emma that many men fell in love with.
I can't wait to hear what she has to say about open or more what she has to say! Any videos or audio on it, Eden? By the way, am a very long time fan of Emma. Since 2000. I thought I've seen just about all kinds of creepy levels towards Emma. Am sure Eden has as a blog owner. Keep up the good work Emma! We believe in what you do!
I meant porn. :)
I do not know who is Gloria Steinem, only Emma has read her book, Someone can say who is Gloria? Do you like her?
Thanks you!
Why is Emma dressed as a cook?
i wonder if they talked about gloria saying that girls only supported bernie because "there's where the boys are"
Ask Christian Bale!
Emma's smile is not real, rather choked.
Hopefully she is realizing that she is biting off more than what she can chew. Where she started with HeforShe has been anulled with Gloria Steinem. louis
"As time has gone on, she has become more out of touch and more extreme"
She's never been in touch with the real world really.....
She was born into privilege and if HP never happened she would probably just be a socialite or something....
Anon abut the privilege-- she wasn't. She's talked about this before. She was born into a middle class family, her parents are practising lawyers, and they worked very hard to send her to a very good school they could just about afford. I agree, she was privileged after the first few Potter films, but she would certainly not be a socialite without them.
Emma is getting torn apart across the web for this. Hugely damaging to her career.
Where exactly is she getting torn apart? I haven't really done any research about this, I just wonder what "the web" is talking about. Any links I could read?
Echee needs to come back to set this girl straight!
I believe this is a fad for Emma. HeforShe speech was good and portrayed some real problems about how boys and girls are treated. Most people will not listen under the heading of feminism- leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. She said herself that before her speech, she had been advised not to use feminism because of the negative connotation especially for countries that the UN wants to reach for helping and protecting women.
Using the lingo Feminism was not intelligent; rights for women is a humanitarian effort. For people in the Middle East Feminism is a Western World despot that has confused the Western woman. Emma failed to understand what the word means to people in the other parts of the world. She just got excited about feminism-out of breath and ran with something she really did not understand of how the term feminism looks to other nations and how it closes minds in these countries.
I just hope she doesn't hurt her career. Directors will not hire trouble.
^ nobody appears to want to hire her which is why she has taken a 'year off'
^ Yeah, that's why she's in the circle, beauty of the beast, and queen of the tearling. 'Cause no one wants to hire trouble, which you think speaking publicly about gender equality for some reason is.
If it were possible, it would be great if Eden could just IP ban the incessant blabbering tools who have so little going on in their lives they have nothing better to do than loft lazy, feebleminded criticisms against a celebrity they don't even like.
"queen of the tearling" probably won't happen, no way they would risk a huge budget on her as a lead - she doesn't have the star power....
oh and i'm a fan of emma, i just think she is making mistake after mistake so why can't i have that opinion? suggesting a ban is very silly.
If it were just you. But it's an epidemic. Just about every post is a crowd of querulous debbie downers.
If they were intelligent, observant, or insightful criticisms, that'd be another thing too. But they're not; they're fussy, inane judgments of personal character.
So yeah, there's a series of things. If nothing else, look at yourself, realize what you're doing.
Lou says,
I am one of the critical ones here, but I am an Emma fan and was so from the beginning. Criticism does not mean dislike, but rather to criticize Emma is- more my part- to worry. I would love to see her to perfect her acting and looking at directing, which she has said that she wants and we have so love about her. Turning to this Feminism bull- in my opinion is not fruitful and take away from who she is as a person. She needs to be careful and a bit more critical about Feminism and what it proclaims.
Why am I anonymous? Because I do not have Facebook and Twitter and am grateful that this blog does not require that or a google account. So be careful with the name calling and why people are anon.
I loved Emma and Bonnie from the beginning; both are wonderful young actresses but Bonnie is moving forward, soon directing her first film, Medusa's Ankle
Lou,
Okay, so you're an anti-feminist. There are plenty of those on the internet, and they're very keen to feed off of and spread misinformation. Ever stop and think that maybe your preconceptions are wrong?
Conversely, Emma's message is incredibly important, especially with the attention it gets with her as a celebrity. Though many celebrities have "come out" as feminists (what an absurd thing; to support basic human equality is "coming out" due to how the term has been slandered by those against it), her message that gender inequality effects both men and women, and is a battle for all of us, was an important move. I've been saying that for years, and it's good to see a public figure not previously connected with the term drive home the concept.
If you continue to judge her for being a feminist, that's really your personal issue - and it's irritating to everyone else to see it incessantly rehashed in the most shallow, inane way possible. Just FYI.
Eden congrats on the blog! You managed to end up having huge discussions on one post...
Lou said, I never judged her on being a feminist. In some ways I am even pro-feminism, but I look at feminism critically. As a whole feminism is not pro family. I have a family and that speaks for itself. Yes is Gender equality important? Yes it is? My criticism with the word feminism is that that word opens different boxes for different cultures. A feminist will not get her shoe in the door to talk about the difficult life of women and the life in the Burka. I think we need to consider how that word is defined by different cultures and generations. Younger people see feminism as a whole very differently than a Gloria Steinem did. Most young women who have ideals about how a woman is treated as a whole across cultures see this as a humanistic endeavor for human equality in all areas of life. Not everyone but many women would agree that feminism is attached to angry middle-aged women. Many celebrities do not want to be stamped as a feminist but see themselves as humanists. Just recently quite a few female celebreties were interviewed to this question if one is a feminist. I think Meryl Streep and others gave some interesting answers.
I would love to see her in Shakespeare in Love 2. Let's start a petition to harvey weinstein is is the producer.
Yes, meryl Street, Susan Sarandon, Sarah Jessica Parker, Marion Cotillard, Demi Moore... are defined as humanists, not feminists, feminism and sexism separates men and women, and humanism unite both
Perfect Phrase
"Not everyone but many women would agree that feminism is attached to angry middle-aged women."
Yes, and that's why it's important to change that harmful preconception. Gender inequality is still an issue the world over.
"As a whole feminism is not pro family"
So you're saying that allowing women to have options beyond being stay-at-home mothers is anti-family. Wow. That is not only incorrect, but a regressive and harmful point of view.
"Yes, meryl Street, Susan Sarandon, Sarah Jessica Parker, Marion Cotillard, Demi Moore... are defined as humanists, not feminists, feminism and sexism separates men and women, and humanism unite both
Perfect Phrase"
Yeah, they totally don't fit the middle-aged, out-of-touch bill. Right. As opposed to actually current and popular celebrities, such as Emma Watson, Katy Perry, Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, Grimes...and that's just the women.
It's not surprising that many women are still afraid to call themselves feminists or ignorant what it means due to the way the term has been slandered, even if that's what they are. I looked up Streep's answer, and it was in response to - guess what! - a feminist movie. Her co-stars had no issues identifying as feminists, but Streep side-stepped the question by refusing a 'yes' or 'no' answer. And also unsurprisingly, most of the quotes from your listed people being "humanists, not feminists" come from over a decade ago!
When it comes down to it, "humanist" doesn't cut it. It glosses over the issue that's already largely ignored or denied. The term feminism lets people know there's an issue with gender equality, that you know it, and that you don't support that inequality. That does not go without saying; it needs to be said.
Hi
someone thinks that this interview with Gloria, Emma has passed to the old and extremme feminism of Gloria? I think it's not good for Emma being influenced by Gloria
Lou says,
I am not saying that women should just stay at home: I have three children and have worked at the university level as history prof, and I make it work. I do not call this feminism to have a career; I call it balancing my life betwen my talents and the people I love (my family).But historically speaking feminism does belittle family and rebounds out of tyrannical way of thinking and rejecting aspects of human relationships. I know feminisism has changed since women's suffrage, but it is also a psychological mindset of a specific type of woman with specific types of experiences.I will stop now and let you research that.
"But historically speaking feminism does belittle family and rebounds out of tyrannical way of thinking and rejecting aspects of human relationships."
No. A million times no.
Perhaps this is some women's individual opinions. But this not what feminism means. To project your prejudices against feminism in regard to certain people you may or may not have known in your personal life is unfair to anyone who simply believes and fights for gender equality. It's utterly baffling you can make a claim like this and earnestly regard it as a rational thought. It's absolutely no different than stereotypes of things like race or religion.
Feminism says sometimes the woman is the breadwinner in hetero relationships, it doesn't have to be the man. Feminism fights for maternity and paternity leave. Feminism advocates that a spouse shouldn't have to stay in an abusive relationship to protect the children, to remain financially stable, to not be labeled used goods, and so on. Feminism has a *positive* relationship to the family. Want to know why? Because gender inequality adversely effects everyone.
Why do we have to label people? I have fought for all those things in my time and have never thought of myself as a feminist but just a human being. I don't need other women telling me what I should or shouldn't be thinking and I don't like men doing it either come to that.
I have really liked Emma but I hope she doesn't become a crusader instead of an actress. To be a good crusader you need to have had plenty of experience of life and I think she is far too young at the moment. Just my opinion.
Lou says thank-you Vicki,
I also do not need the tag of feminism; I have also struggled with equal pay because I am a woman, my husband taking paternity leave when our last child was born. I did not need feminism to solve this. My husband and I talked to one another and came to a consensus that was for everyone's benefit. My husband played Mr Mom for almost two years while I was finishing my research for my book. This life with another person happens in a relationship of love and respect. That is what you build up with a partner.
Of course no one should be forced to stay in an abusive relationship, and mother and child should be protected. A divorce always brings financial instability unless you are already beginning with a few million.
By no means is it my ploy to undermine anyone's belief in feminism, but I am also saying that I and millions of women need an ism to regulate their life. I do not need feminism or another group of women undermining my decisions and the direction I want to go.
My daughter brought me to this blog, and we have been reading these comments together, and we are discussing them at this moment. She is 18 and knows what she wants out of life and how to pursue this. She is in a good relationship with a young man. I would hate for some 'feminist ticks' to destroy such a beautiful relationship.
Again, I am not against feminism, but I have lived my life and have seen people who have existentially lost much.
Lou
Well said Lou, like you I dislike "isms".
You don't need to call yourself a feminist if you support equality, but it helps. We don't live in a society where things can get swept under the rug and everything will still end up ok. If you don't want to be part of that fight, or have some personal issue against a word, that's fine, that's your choice.
But it was never my argument that you must call yourself a feminist. This conversation started with a paragraph calling feminism "bullshit", and myself defending it. I guess I've made some progress.
"I would hate for some 'feminist ticks' to destroy such a beautiful relationship."
Let's look at this rationally: Equality isn't going to ruin a relationship, personal issues can. If someone, for instance, comes to hate men (I hate even repeating this stereotype), it is not because of women's rights and gender equality - that comes from inside, or elsewhere in the environment. People with existing issues might find the feminist label appealing, but that is the nature of any movement under the sun, and is not a quality of the movement itself. Likewise, people's minds, which stereotype by nature, are quick to make false or irrational associations when presented with even a limited correlation.
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