You can see the ring mark on her middle finger left hand where she removed it just for this image! I totally support her unbiased views and not using her influence to well, influence her fans who reside in the EU. Great image!
If the Britans vote for Brexit no problem at all. I'm from Germany so we are well trained to build up the "Atlantic Wall" again. Due to the fact of a wave of refugees from Britain. No, just kidding. I'm an owner of an estate in Heidelberg and of course I'll take care of refugees from Britain. Sophisticated Butlers are always welcome. It is always hard to find good staff.
I think Emma is one of the few celebrities to have played fair and kept her views to herself and not used them to either talk down to or persuade others to vote the same way - unlike J K Rowling, Bob Geldof, David Beckham, Jason Isaacs and many others. Full marks to her.
Ok, its up to her. But honestly this is an important decision. Emma should made a proper position. On the other hand I followed "watson uncensored" since 2011. So I know her attitude.
In 2011, she believed that ideologies are toxic and "an insult to human freethought". Now she's an ideologue. So it's safe to say her decision will be driven by her ideology of the moment.
Always so judgmental she was 21 then have your options not altered as you grow. Ideologue really, Emma is committed not dogmatic and HeforShe is the furthest idea form groupthink I have seen in a long time.
As to her preferences on the referendum previous comments have covered why it is better she not say. Promoting the need to vote without saying how people should vote, Kudos Emma.
And since you raise the matter of decisions what about yours to follow someone you don't like for at least 5 years. Don't you get tried and want to get some positive reinforcement follow someone you admire it is very empowering at the very least it is fun.
What he's saying is that age is an excuse for selling your mind to a groupthink controlled collectivist cult. One need only look at some of the comments she's made on the subject to see she's been brainwashed. She talks about seeing things through "a feminist lens". She says things like if you don't see signs of modern sexism you're looking in the wrong places, which means feminist propaganda I suppose. There's not a free thought in her skull anymore. Such a waste.
Was an intelligent girl. Now she's a puppet. Why do you say this, do you think Emma is too influenced by some very feminists people, people who can be a bad influence on her?
well, Emma is a intelligent person but I think her idea of feminism that she was seen in his Speeches at the UN, It changed, she talked about all women in the world and now only focuses on women in Hollywood, I think you should discuss the situation of those anonymous women who take their familais out those women who do not earn the same salary as men and those little girls who are obliagadas to marry in underdeveloped countries .... not only the disadvantage of being woman in Hollywood On the other hand, I do not like that relates to feminists as Steinem or Moran, who has a feminist point of view end, the extremes are never good I do not like that Emma is follower of a woman(Steinem) who says women will vote Sanders, It is because they want meet men who alsoThey will vote Sanders Hello ?! why she says that? now it turns out that women who vote Sanders are a "sluts" who only seek men and she says we should vote to Hilary simply because she is a woman, you have to vote for whoever you want, regardless of gender Repeat Emma is a intellgent girl and I am proud of her, but she must be careful of negative influences and she should reach all women not only Hollywood women
And of course, she never goes into any sort of detail about how SHE experienced it. It doesn't matter if it's personal. If you're going to put yourself out there for a cause, you better damn well be ready to share specific, SERIUOS cases. Not " Oh, my brothers call me bossy." As it is, all she's doing is spouting platitudes.
All anybody has done in the past is encourage her. You used to have people raving about how she SHOULD be a director because she had ideas about EVERYTHING. Not so much these days.
Another sign of groupthink. Loss of creativity and individuality. Unquestioning belief in the morality of the group, despite evidences to the contrary. Such evidences are met with moralizations.
As for that one anon who keeps repeating themselves thread after thread after thread about Emma's diabolical evil feminism, how are you not tired of this by now? Do you think that if you keep saying something enough it'll suddenly make sense? Or are you just extremely forgetful? Please.
first you're saying emma should make opinions and share them (as in choosing a side in the voting) and now you're saying she's a puppet for sharing her views on feminism (i.e. her opinions)... kinda contradicting... are her opinions on feminism not valid because she's part of an organization?
No. Because they're not her views but views she's adopted within the past two years since falling in with this cult. She USED to be a free thinker who thought ideologies toxic.
And I've been following her book club and a lot of what I've read is groupthinky and collectivist as fuck. Therefore, it's not a stretch to imagine that Emma is being AFFECTED and AFFLICTED with this groupthink.
Former Emma= passionate about art, fashion, film. Full of ideas. Driven.
Current Emma= Constant vacations. Flip flopping on her passion for her art. Don't hear anyone raving about her being full of ideas anymore. The only thing she seems passionate about anymore is propaganda.
She has never flip flopped and is constant. She has matured in her views over the years, unlike her detractors if those here are indicative who clearly have not.
The solution is clear if you don't like Emma or believe in what she is trying to do find someone else you do like. The reason you can never support your argument with fact is maybe your hart is not in it. Must be depressing for you all these negative invective over and over.
Try offering support to people like Emma, human and flawed like us all who are at least trying to make the world better rather than waste energy insulting people.
And I've been following her book club and a lot of what I've read is groupthinky and collectivist as fuck. Therefore, it's not a stretch to imagine that Emma is being AFFECTED and AFFLICTED with this groupthink. What do you mean with this?
Yes, it looks like a little bit in this way. For me it is ok. If she wants to take a lazy year, why not ? Well, this should not be so, I mean, she has work a lot and she has money,she can afford to take a year off to rest but she took this year to continue working at the UN, and she has spent months doing nothing, I do not know which is the reason, but take a year off and do nothing when she said it was to focus on her work as an activist,It's been months of "vacation"
Yes, I agree. Maybe it was not her best move when she announced to focus on 'he for she' this year. But for me, as I said before, it is Ok! Yes, I am happy for her, I have seen Colonia and I like her acting, InThe bling ring and Noah i do not like so much her acting bur in Colonia She is great, she has improved as an actress. And her work as an activist, I like, but I liked it better before, when she began a year and a half ago, in my opinion, she was more implicated, and when I read that she was going to take a year off to focus on it, I thought "this is great, she is striving" but it will make 4 months without doing anything with heforshe, as if it had evaporated, and when I read that Anne was new ambassador, I thought, "oh my god, for that reason emma and does nothing with heforshe " And in my opinion (and this will not appeal to some people) Panama papers has hurt the image of Emma, I read comments in Emma forum , and some people say that this disappointed, though not illegal, it is not ethical to have your money in a tax haven while you live in another country, and there are people who are disappointed. Her publicist speak about it, but I think Emma should have had the courage to talk about it and explained and instead she preferred to hide. I not which is the reason for these months of absence (except the book club) but I have noticed that Emma is separate of campaing od heforshe.
I am a member of goodreads and HeforShe she does what needs to be done and no one involved in those initiatives have any problems with her contribution.
But in any case Anno's, assuming there is more that one, you all make my point it for me it was put best by Socrates
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
I'm not maligning !!! I have the right to express my opinion as you I like Emma, I repeat, I LIKE EMMA, she is intelligent, hardworking, bright, I just say that I am surprised that she said she took a year to pursue her work as an activist and work is being very scarce, nothing more, PLEASEEEE I'm not an ogre by express my opinion :( there are things of Emma that I praise and others not, you can not praise all of a person
My comments are the ones that have said rude things, you all have the same name you know :)
I only react to the spiteful comments. I don't think Emma is perfect but I see no value in pointing of faults when the person does not have the right of reply. I am genuine in my concern that we run the risk of making the "good" celebrities who at least try to use what they have to help others as world weiry as the bitter Anno's.
With apologies to Joseph de Maistre, perhaps we don't get the governments we deserve, but we do get the celebrities we deserve lets support the useful ones.
lol at the "groupthink" and "propaganda" anon. I'm not allowed to say what you are, because apparently that's the one thing that's actually against the rules of this blog, while you're completely free to ruin the comments section of every blog post for everyone else. Suffice it to say, others have undoubtedly let you know what you are in the past.
We like Emma. It's offensive to us when someone repeatedly and incessantly attacks her with false info, fallacies, and malicious intent, absolutely refusing to listen to rationality or truth or the requests of anyone else. But that's not against the rules.
Then we get called unthinking, follower fandom sheep who think Emma can do no wrong, just because we rationally disagree with irrational, biased arguments. But apparently that's not against the rules either.
...With apologies to Joseph de Maistre, perhaps we don't get the governments we deserve, but we do get the celebrities we deserve lets support the useful ones..
If you are British I hope this is not your "excuse" for not voting today ;-)
My Idea of Europe have more then 2000 years old. The Ue format have only 50 years and it's control by burocrats that try to keep the total control of the european country and they don't like that you have the possibility to choose. This will be you last chance to exit and say No thanks. Belive me ... you have this possibility some country don't have it. You can choose .... Your country in democracy or united europe without democracy
I do not see really developing her skills as an actress; she is not that good and should work on that if she wants to be a a serious actress. Her bookshelf is mainstream collectivism in feminism- old farts.
no this is a disaster and there is no joy to be found for any rational mind. Still that is debate for another place lets just deal with the subject matter of the site cheer ourselves up.
That statement does not make sense no one was brainwashed. Meanwhile Emma is working to keep Equality at the forefront as it normally gets forgotten in these crisis.
show consistence and commitment, which is most tha Westminster seems capable of.
I do and many other people and organizations do to given current events Emma's initiatives have been much more useful for actual action and change than politicians seem capable of.
Where leaders are failing privet citizen with the backing of like minded people have and will make actual progress. Emma's work encourages people to work together and achieve things for themselves rather than leave it all to a political class.
What she and other like her do is even more important now that ever before.
The world is changing and the ones working to make it better for everyone should be applauded and supported.
I think it is alright to portray critical views- even of the lit of her bookshelves. Is she really making a difference. HeforShe was in vogue for awhile but it definately has lost momentum and nothing else has been heard. I looked at her facebook, and I see nothing that has not already been said. Angelina Jolie-Pitt and her family are making a difference. They are really raising the awareness of the plight of family and children in the world. Emma is a sweet kid, but she really has not done that much than act very well in HP, which every child may dream of and was in a few films and advocated HeforShe, otherwise I am missing something-Oh yes the bookshelf.
Criticism just or the sake of it only hurts the subject and the critic why would anyone want to do that.
and in this instance you are missing everything and again comment and judge things you are not part of no one on goodreads or HeforShe have any problems with progress, and since we are the ones doing it with her that should be accepted should it not.
She did not say and your comments are why she is a conscientious thoughtful person who never attacks or detracts from anyone. Your comments are brutal and I ask you to remember she is first and foremost a young woman. Please moderate to tone and content.
A young woman who has been chosen to represent the rights of other young women. Something the EU blatantly disregards. So forgive me if I fear the worst when all I know is that she's most likely a liberal and that most likely she WOULD blindly be detrimental to her own cause because it's the liberal thing to do.
Wrong, I am on Goodreads, no her bookshelf does not interest me, but I participate inn Oprah's bookshelf because those books have more variety and and are truly qualitative goodreads.
First all Human rights and equal rights legislation came from the EU and would have been blocked by UK government, They even took a vote first on Gay marriage other countries did not. Once again Emma has not said how she voted but it would have been with her hart and that is all we can ask.
Second the criticism was about Emma's goodreads bookshelf so you do not know anything about her contribution and it does not even interest you why are you commenting at all?
Seriously I am the only one on the site today who thinks these are personal and cruel comments really what did she do to deserved this treatment.
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Does Emma support 'in' or 'out' ?
i think she has been good not to take sides
If you not take sides there is no need to vote!
You can see the ring mark on her middle finger left hand where she removed it just for this image! I totally support her unbiased views and not using her influence to well, influence her fans who reside in the EU. Great image!
If the Britans vote for Brexit no problem at all.
I'm from Germany so we are well trained to build up the "Atlantic Wall" again.
Due to the fact of a wave of refugees from Britain.
No, just kidding. I'm an owner of an estate in Heidelberg and of course I'll take care of refugees from Britain.
Sophisticated Butlers are always welcome. It is always hard to find good staff.
You can see the ring mark on her middle finger left hand where she removed it just for this image!
What ring? what do you mean? I do not understand
I think Emma is one of the few celebrities to have played fair and kept her views to herself and not used them to either talk down to or persuade others to vote the same way - unlike J K Rowling, Bob Geldof, David Beckham, Jason Isaacs and many others. Full marks to her.
I think anon means this ring.
'One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.'
J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the rings
Ok, its up to her. But honestly this is an important decision. Emma should made a proper position.
On the other hand I followed "watson uncensored" since 2011. So I know her attitude.
In 2011, she believed that ideologies are toxic and "an insult to human freethought". Now she's an ideologue. So it's safe to say her decision will be driven by her ideology of the moment.
Always so judgmental she was 21 then have your options not altered as you grow.
Ideologue really, Emma is committed not dogmatic and HeforShe is the furthest idea form groupthink I have seen in a long time.
As to her preferences on the referendum previous comments have covered why it is better she not say. Promoting the need to vote without saying how people should vote, Kudos Emma.
And since you raise the matter of decisions what about yours to follow someone you don't like for at least 5 years. Don't you get tried and want to get some positive reinforcement follow someone you admire it is very empowering at the very least it is fun.
Always so judgmental she was 21 then have your options not altered as you grow. What is this? What do you mean'
What he's saying is that age is an excuse for selling your mind to a groupthink controlled collectivist cult. One need only look at some of the comments she's made on the subject to see she's been brainwashed. She talks about seeing things through "a feminist lens". She says things like if you don't see signs of modern sexism you're looking in the wrong places, which means feminist propaganda I suppose. There's not a free thought in her skull anymore. Such a waste.
There's not a free thought in her skull anymore. Such a waste
Why you say this? Emma is a intelligent girl
Was an intelligent girl. Now she's a puppet.
Why do you say this, do you think Emma is too influenced by some very feminists people, people who can be a bad influence on her?
well, Emma is a intelligent person but I think her idea of feminism that she was seen in his Speeches at the UN, It changed, she talked about all women in the world and now only focuses on women in Hollywood, I think you should discuss the situation of those anonymous women who take their familais out those women who do not earn the same salary as men and those little girls who are obliagadas to marry in underdeveloped countries .... not only the disadvantage of being woman in Hollywood
On the other hand, I do not like that relates to feminists as Steinem or Moran, who has a feminist point of view end, the extremes are never good
I do not like that Emma is follower of a woman(Steinem) who says women will vote Sanders, It is because they want meet men who alsoThey will vote Sanders
Hello ?! why she says that? now it turns out that women who vote Sanders are a "sluts" who only seek men and she says we should vote to Hilary simply because she is a woman, you have to vote for whoever you want, regardless of gender
Repeat Emma is a intellgent girl and I am proud of her, but she must be careful of negative influences and she should reach all women not only Hollywood women
And of course, she never goes into any sort of detail about how SHE experienced it. It doesn't matter if it's personal. If you're going to put yourself out there for a cause, you better damn well be ready to share specific, SERIUOS cases. Not " Oh, my brothers call me bossy." As it is, all she's doing is spouting platitudes.
All anybody has done in the past is encourage her. You used to have people raving about how she SHOULD be a director because she had ideas about EVERYTHING. Not so much these days.
Another sign of groupthink. Loss of creativity and individuality. Unquestioning belief in the morality of the group, despite evidences to the contrary. Such evidences are met with moralizations.
But I actually do love the way she looks in this picture. It's very "Join us."
On the other hand, she is encouraging people to make their voices heard with this photo. So maybe there is a little bit of individuality left there.
And hell, so long as she continues acting in the future and fulfills all that early potential people raved about I'll happily follow her.
Whoa, chill out people.
As for that one anon who keeps repeating themselves thread after thread after thread about Emma's diabolical evil feminism, how are you not tired of this by now? Do you think that if you keep saying something enough it'll suddenly make sense? Or are you just extremely forgetful? Please.
first you're saying emma should make opinions and share them (as in choosing a side in the voting) and now you're saying she's a puppet for sharing her views on feminism (i.e. her opinions)... kinda contradicting... are her opinions on feminism not valid because she's part of an organization?
No. Because they're not her views but views she's adopted within the past two years since falling in with this cult. She USED to be a free thinker who thought ideologies toxic.
And I've been following her book club and a lot of what I've read is groupthinky and collectivist as fuck. Therefore, it's not a stretch to imagine that Emma is being AFFECTED and AFFLICTED with this groupthink.
Former Emma= passionate about art, fashion, film. Full of ideas. Driven.
Current Emma= Constant vacations. Flip flopping on her passion for her art. Don't hear anyone raving about her being full of ideas anymore. The only thing she seems passionate about anymore is propaganda.
She has never flip flopped and is constant. She has matured in her views over the years, unlike her detractors if those here are indicative who clearly have not.
The solution is clear if you don't like Emma or believe in what she is trying to do find someone else you do like. The reason you can never support your argument with fact is maybe your hart is not in it. Must be depressing for you all these negative invective over and over.
Try offering support to people like Emma, human and flawed like us all who are at least trying to make the world better rather than waste energy insulting people.
And I've been following her book club and a lot of what I've read is groupthinky and collectivist as fuck. Therefore, it's not a stretch to imagine that Emma is being AFFECTED and AFFLICTED with this groupthink.
What do you mean with this?
@ anon
....Current Emma= Constant vacations.....
Yes, it looks like a little bit in this way. For me it is ok. If she wants to take a lazy year, why not ?
Current Emma= Constant vacations.....
Yes, it looks like a little bit in this way. For me it is ok. If she wants to take a lazy year, why not ?
Well, this should not be so, I mean, she has work a lot and she has money,she can afford to take a year off to rest but she took this year to continue working at the UN, and she has spent months doing nothing, I do not know which is the reason, but take a year off and do nothing when she said it was to focus on her work as an activist,It's been months of "vacation"
Yes, I agree. Maybe it was not her best move when she announced to focus on 'he for she' this year. But for me, as I said before, it is Ok!
Yes, I agree. Maybe it was not her best move when she announced to focus on 'he for she' this year. But for me, as I said before, it is Ok!
Yes, I am happy for her, I have seen Colonia and I like her acting, InThe bling ring and Noah i do not like so much her acting bur in Colonia She is great, she has improved as an actress.
And her work as an activist, I like, but I liked it better before, when she began a year and a half ago, in my opinion, she was more implicated, and when I read that she was going to take a year off to focus on it, I thought "this is great, she is striving" but it will make 4 months without doing anything with heforshe, as if it had evaporated, and when I read that Anne was new ambassador, I thought, "oh my god, for that reason emma and does nothing with heforshe "
And in my opinion (and this will not appeal to some people) Panama papers has hurt the image of Emma, I read comments in Emma forum , and some people say that this disappointed, though not illegal, it is not ethical to have your money in a tax haven while you live in another country, and there are people who are disappointed.
Her publicist speak about it, but I think Emma should have had the courage to talk about it and explained and instead she preferred to hide. I not which is the reason for these months of absence (except the book club) but I have noticed that Emma is separate of campaing od heforshe.
I am a member of goodreads and HeforShe she does what needs to be done and no one involved in those initiatives have any problems with her contribution.
But in any case Anno's, assuming there is more that one, you all make my point it for me it was put best by Socrates
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
I'm not maligning !!! I have the right to express my opinion as you
I like Emma, I repeat, I LIKE EMMA, she is intelligent, hardworking, bright, I just say that I am surprised that she said she took a year to pursue her work as an activist and work is being very scarce, nothing more, PLEASEEEE
I'm not an ogre by express my opinion :(
there are things of Emma that I praise and others not, you can not praise all of a person
My comments are the ones that have said rude things, you all have the same name you know :)
I only react to the spiteful comments. I don't think Emma is perfect but I see no value in pointing of faults when the person does not have the right of reply. I am genuine in my concern that we run the risk of making the "good" celebrities who at least try to use what they have to help others as world weiry as the bitter Anno's.
With apologies to Joseph de Maistre, perhaps we don't get the governments we deserve, but we do get the celebrities we deserve lets support the useful ones.
lol at the "groupthink" and "propaganda" anon. I'm not allowed to say what you are, because apparently that's the one thing that's actually against the rules of this blog, while you're completely free to ruin the comments section of every blog post for everyone else. Suffice it to say, others have undoubtedly let you know what you are in the past.
We like Emma. It's offensive to us when someone repeatedly and incessantly attacks her with false info, fallacies, and malicious intent, absolutely refusing to listen to rationality or truth or the requests of anyone else. But that's not against the rules.
Then we get called unthinking, follower fandom sheep who think Emma can do no wrong, just because we rationally disagree with irrational, biased arguments. But apparently that's not against the rules either.
Dear Ross,
...With apologies to Joseph de Maistre, perhaps we don't get the governments we deserve, but we do get the celebrities we deserve lets support the useful ones..
If you are British I hope this is not your "excuse" for not voting today ;-)
Have to vote to Emma said no Excuses :)
Dear Ross,
Thanks!
My Idea of Europe have more then 2000 years old. The Ue format have only 50 years and it's control by burocrats that try to keep the total control of the european country and they don't like that you have the possibility to choose. This will be you last chance to exit and say No thanks. Belive me ... you have this possibility some country don't have it.
You can choose .... Your country in democracy or united europe without democracy
the EU Parliament is made up of elected representatives from the member states MEP (Members of European parliament) it is a democracy.
Disastrous result but still think Emma deserves credit for keeping her own council on that matter.
I do not see really developing her skills as an actress; she is not that good and should work on that if she wants to be a a serious actress. Her bookshelf is mainstream collectivism in feminism- old farts.
@ Ross Taggart
Not a disaster. A great moment in history. EU is failing and we got out in time.
Happy Independence Day :D
no this is a disaster and there is no joy to be found for any rational mind. Still that is debate for another place lets just deal with the subject matter of the site cheer ourselves up.
well if my mind isn't a rational one then surely yours is a brainwashed one
one day you will see that it was right to come out - mark my words
That statement does not make sense no one was brainwashed. Meanwhile Emma is working to keep Equality at the forefront as it normally gets forgotten in these crisis.
show consistence and commitment, which is most tha Westminster seems capable of.
yes eu propaganda has been in our politics, universities, media for over 40 years - we need to cleanse ourselfs
"which is most tha Westminster seems capable of." over 2/3 of mp's backed staying in so i agree with you there
Nobody really cares about Emma's equality crap anymore
I do and many other people and organizations do to given current events Emma's initiatives have been much more useful for actual action and change than politicians seem capable of.
Where leaders are failing privet citizen with the backing of like minded people have and will make actual progress. Emma's work encourages people to work together and achieve things for themselves rather than leave it all to a political class.
What she and other like her do is even more important now that ever before.
The world is changing and the ones working to make it better for everyone should be applauded and supported.
I think it is alright to portray critical views- even of the lit of her bookshelves.
Is she really making a difference. HeforShe was in vogue for awhile but it definately has lost momentum and nothing else has been heard. I looked at her facebook, and I see nothing that has not already been said.
Angelina Jolie-Pitt and her family are making a difference. They are really raising the awareness of the plight of family and children in the world.
Emma is a sweet kid, but she really has not done that much than act very well in HP, which every child may dream of and was in a few films and advocated HeforShe, otherwise I am missing something-Oh yes the bookshelf.
Criticism just or the sake of it only hurts the subject and the critic why would anyone want to do that.
and in this instance you are missing everything and again comment and judge things you are not part of no one on goodreads or HeforShe have any problems with progress, and since we are the ones doing it with her that should be accepted should it not.
She did not say and your comments are why she is a conscientious thoughtful person who never attacks or detracts from anyone. Your comments are brutal and I ask you to remember she is first and foremost a young woman. Please moderate to tone and content.
A young woman who has been chosen to represent the rights of other young women. Something the EU blatantly disregards. So forgive me if I fear the worst when all I know is that she's most likely a liberal and that most likely she WOULD blindly be detrimental to her own cause because it's the liberal thing to do.
Wrong, I am on Goodreads, no her bookshelf does not interest me, but I participate inn Oprah's bookshelf because those books have more variety and and are truly qualitative goodreads.
First all Human rights and equal rights legislation came from the EU and would have been blocked by UK government, They even took a vote first on Gay marriage other countries did not. Once again Emma has not said how she voted but it would have been with her hart and that is all we can ask.
Second the criticism was about Emma's goodreads bookshelf so you do not know anything about her contribution and it does not even interest you why are you commenting at all?
Seriously I am the only one on the site today who thinks these are personal and cruel comments really what did she do to deserved this treatment.
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